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ASIP6.1と第三者中継(SPAM対策)(その2)

発言者:スターダスト
( Date Tuesday, September 26, 2000 13:34:51 )


通信ログをいれたら
スレッドがいっぱいになってしまいましたので
新しく立ち上げました。

RSSでもORBSでもそうですが
少なくともASIP6.1では
TESTにとおったからといって
第三者中継が不可能になったわけでは
ありません。

実際、この状態でしっかり
第三者中継されました。
だれもがしっているメールソフトで。

各メーカのサービスや、有識者に相談して
しっかりと確認し
グレードアップするなり
さしかえなどで対応が必要です。

こちらでは、その後
ベンダーからオファーがあり
他の機種にかえるかもしれません。(悲)

たまちゃん さんからのコメント
( Tuesday, September 26, 2000 20:39:07 )

前々から書こう書こうと思いながら書かずじまいだった ORBS についての
メモを書き始めました。

つきましては,ORBS によってチェックされたときのログをお持ちの方は
私宛,あるいはこのスレッドで(ホスト名は変更するなどして)教えて
いただけないでしょうか。出来れば最近テストされたものが助かります。

今改めて ORBS のページを読んでいると不正確な理解のところがありま
したので,その点も正確なものにしたいと思っています。また,ORBS の
ページの中で間違っている箇所がありますので,それも改めたいと思って
います。

もし出来上がれば(といっても非常に短いものになると思いますし,いつ
も通り内容がないよう状態になるのは必至ですが)公開しますので,ご協
力の程,よろしくお願いいたします。

ニキ さんからのコメント
( Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:33:51 )

5月までASIPを使っていた者です。
4月初めにORBSでテストしました。
4月を最近と言えるかどうか少々疑問ですが、参考になればと思い、抜粋を載せます。
OS 8.6、ASIP Mail Server 6.2.1 の環境でした。
以下、xxx.xxx.jpは当方のドメイン名、xxx.xx.xxx.xxはIPアドレスです。


>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
<<   553 <orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz> - Recipient Rejected!
     From domain "orbs.org" has delivery restrictions in place.
     No SMTP mail relay is allowed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<"orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz">
<<   553 <"orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz"> - Recipient Rejected!
     From domain "orbs.org" has delivery restrictions in place.
     No SMTP mail relay is allowed.

>> MAIL FROM: sender@orbs.org
>> RCPT TO: orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz 
<<   553  orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz  - Recipient Rejected!
     From domain "orbs.org" has delivery restrictions in place.
     No SMTP mail relay is allowed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender>
<<   553  - From Address Rejected!  User account "sender" MUST exist
     as a valid local user on "xxx.xxx.jp"

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest%manawatu.co.nz@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]>
<<   553 <orbs-relaytest%manawatu.co.nz@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]> - Recipient
     Rejected! From domain "orbs.org" has delivery restrictions in place.
     No SMTP mail relay is allowed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest%manawatu.co.nz@xxx.xxx.jp>
<<   553 <orbs-relaytest%manawatu.co.nz@xxx.xxx.jp> - Recipient
     Rejected! From domain "orbs.org" has delivery restrictions in place.
     No SMTP mail relay is allowed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]>
<<   501 Recipient Rejected!
     The recipient <orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]> is not
     allowed by the AppleShare IP Mail Server. Recipient may contain
     illegal characters or may be malformed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz@xxx.xxx.jp>
<<   501 Recipient Rejected!
     The recipient <orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz@xxx.xxx.jp>
     is not allowed by the AppleShare IP Mail Server. Recipient may
     contain illegal characters or may be malformed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<manawatu.co.nz!orbs-relaytest@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]>
<<   553 <manawatu.co.nz!orbs-relaytest@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]> - Recipient
     Rejected! From domain "orbs.org" has delivery restrictions in place.
     No SMTP mail relay is allowed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<manawatu.co.nz!orbs-relaytest@xxx.xxx.jp>
<<   553 <manawatu.co.nz!orbs-relaytest@xxx.xxx.jp> - Recipient
     Rejected! From domain "orbs.org" has delivery restrictions in place.
     No SMTP mail relay is allowed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]:orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
<<   501 Recipient Rejected!
     The recipient <@[xxx.xx.xxx.xx]:orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz> is not
     allowed by the AppleShare IP Mail Server. Recipient may contain illegal
     characters or may be malformed.

>> MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
>> RCPT TO:<@xxx.xxx.jp:orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
<<   501 Recipient Rejected!
     The recipient <@xxx.xxx.jp:orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz> is
     not allowed by the AppleShare IP Mail Server. Recipient may contain
     illegal characters or may be malformed.


以上です。
私はあまり詳しいとは言えませんので、解説していただけましたら幸いです。

たまちゃん さんからのコメント
( Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:16:57 )

ニキさん:

テスト結果を載せていただいて本当に有り難うございます。もし
よろしければこの結果を拝借させていただけないでしょうか。

そうでしたら,昼休みにでも初稿にあたるようなものを公開できる
と思います。

>解説していただけましたら幸いです。

これは今後の課題とさせていただきます。(^_^;;

よろしくお願いします。

いっちゃん さんからのコメント
( Monday, October 02, 2000 17:52:06 )

始めてコメントさせていただきます。
私は現在ASIP6.3.1とQuicKDNS2.2.1で暫定的にインターネットサーバーを
立ち上げております。が最近ORBSよりおたくはダメですよなんて言う警告
メールなるものがくるようになりました。ORBSのデーターベースを見ると
のっているではありませんか!こまたこまた
最近スパム対策のアップデートもしたはずなのに.........?
どなたか相談に乗っていただける方はいらっしゃいませんでしょうか!
よろしくお願い致します。

いっちゃん さんからのコメント
( Monday, October 02, 2000 18:33:33 )

追加コメント
OSは9.0.4です

また、EIMS1.3.1を急遽設定したのですが外部にはメールを出せるのですが
外からのメールが受信ができません。と言うよりPOPサーバーは受信しているようなのですが、自分に宛てたメールはすべて下記のように

The following message could not be sent to 'xxx@aaaa.co.jp' at host 'aaaa.co.jp' because a mail loop exists.

    ----Unsent message follows----

From: xxxxx <xxxx@xx.iij4u.or.jp>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 13:11:02 -0700
To: <xxx@aaaa.co.jp>
Subject: 試験メール

試験試験試験試験試験試験試験試験
試験試験試験試験試験試験試験試験

Postmaster@aaaa.co.jp宛てに送られてきます。
なぜでしょう?

ASIP6.3.1の Mac OS Server Admin Agentもすべて終了しQuicKDNS2.2.1と
EIMS1.3.1でやらないとダメなのでしょうか?
じゃWWW,FTPなどはどうしたら良いでしょう?

田中求之 さんからのコメント
( Monday, October 02, 2000 21:52:33 )

ASIP のメールサーバは停止してますか? Mail サーバを止めれば、
ASIP と EIMS を同じマシン(ホスト)で運用することができます。

また、メールループが発生しているようなのですが、DNS の設定と
(特に MX レコード)、EIMS の Servers の設定はどうなっていますか?

いっちゃん さんからのコメント
( Tuesday, October 03, 2000 14:01:35 )

田中求之さま早速のコメント有り難うございます!
質問に対しての返答と現在の設定は下記のようになっております。


ASIP のメールサーバは停止してますか? はい!

わたしのマシーンはPowerMac8600/200メモリは160MB
OS9.0.4 同じマシン(1台)で運用
ASIPは6.1からの現在ASIP6.3.1までアップデートしています。
Appleサイトの一連のアップグレードはすんでいるはずなのですが?

sample.co.jp(sample=自分ドメイン210.xxx.xxx.50)
ns.sample.co.jp(210.xxx.xxx.50)
hlbbs.sample.co.jp(210.xxx.xxx.60)
3smug.sample.co.jp(210.xxx.xxx.60)
www2.sample.co.jp.(210.xxx.xxx.51)
www3.sample.co.jp.(210.xxx.xxx.52)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
QuickDNS の設定

ホスト名        TTL   タイプ     パラメタ1           パラメタ2         

sample.co.jp.          NS        ns.sample.co.jp.
sample.co.jp.          NS        ns-tk021.ocn.ad.jp.
sample.co.jp.          MX        10                  ns.sample.co.jp.
sample.co.jp.          HINFO     Macintosh           MacOS
ns.sample.co.jp.       A         210.xxx.xxx.50
mail.sample.co.jp.     CNAME     ns.sample.co.jp.
www.sample.co.jp.      CNAME     ns.sample.co.jp.
hlbbs.sample.co.jp.    A         210.xxx.xxx.60
3smug.sample.co.jp.    CNAME     hlbbs.sample.co.jp.
www2.sample.co.jp.     A         210.xxx.xxx.51
www3.sample.co.jp.     A         210.xxx.xxx.52
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
EIMS1.3.1 の Servers の設定はどうなっていますか?

Serverスタート時

Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.3.1 5 November 1998 9:54am
PowerPC version
Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:27:24 +0900
IP address: 210.xxx.xxx.50
Open Transport 2.6.1
Default domain: sample.co.jp
Looking up server name...
Returned name: ns.sample.co.jp
Server name is ns.sample.co.jp
SMTP & POP3 ready
Server ready to go.

Account information ----------------------------------------------------
Sizelimit (K): 2000
Account enabled /Longin enabled=on
Forwarding : No fowerding

Sending setup ----------------------------------------------------------
Domain : *
Route : None
Timeout(secs):300 /Retry interval(mins):60 /Expire sfter(hours):72

Preferences -----------------------------------------------------------
Server names:ns.sample.co.jp(Default)
POP Server/ Connections:4 Timeout:120
SMTP Server/ Connections:4 Timeout:300
Password Server/ Connections:2 Timeout:120
Ph Server/ Connections:2 Timeout:120

Outgoimg SMTP Connections:2
DNR cache entries:64
Move buffer size(K):16
Max mail log size(K):32
Max error log size(K):32
Relay Restrictions:Only relay if for local domains or the following domains



以上です。








スパムメールに関して

ORBSなどからのクレームなどのメールなどです、おはずかしい、なにか参考になりますか?

1)-----------------------------------------------------------------------

This program checks for open relays.

Open relays are automatically added to the ORBS Open Relay
Database (see http://www.orbs.org/ for details).

Check http://www.orbs.org/verify.php3?address=210.xxx.xxx.50 for this hosts current status.

Vulnerability checks are detailed at http://www.orbs.org/envelopes.html

Securing help can be found at http://www.orbs.org/otherresources.html

There are multiple tests applied per IP address.
Partially secured hosts may pass some tests, but fail others.
Hosts are only classified as secure by ORBS if they pass all tests.

Hosts which do not deliver messages are not classified as insecure.

Do not use the above addresses to contact me - use admin@orbs.org.

X-Token: dcxzmpmkabibytpk
X-Envelope-Sender: MAIL FROM:<sender@orbs.org>
X-Envelope-Recipient: RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest%manawatu.co.nz@ns.sample.co.jp>



2)-----------------------------------------------------------------------


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at relay2.ptm.pt.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<erqla@sapo.pt>:
Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1)
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <Postmaster@ns.sample.co.jp>
Received: (qmail 21220 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2000 05:02:58 -0000
Received: from ns.sample.co.jp (210.xxx.xxx.50)
  by relay2.ptm.pt with SMTP; 21 Sep 2000 05:02:58 -0000
Received: from ns.sample.co.jp by ns.sample.co.jp (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3.1) id 3236 via NDR; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:06:09 +0900
Message-id: <1000921140609.8fd48.d2e24432.ASIP6.3.1.3236@ns.sample.co.jp>
From: "Postmaster" <Postmaster@ns.sample.co.jp>
To: <erqla@sapo.pt>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:06:09 +0900
Subject: Non-Delivery Warning

     ************************************************
     **      THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY        **
     **  YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE    **
     ************************************************

The original message was received at Thu Sep 21 11:27:25 2000

Warning: message still undelivered after 1 hour(s)
Will keep trying until message is 72 hour(s) old

Reporting-MTA: DNS, ns.sample.co.jp

Action: delayed
Last-Attempt-Date: Thu Sep 21 14:06:09 2000
Will-Retry-Until: Sun Sep 24 11:27:25 2000


The first portion of the original message text follows:
-------------------------------------------------------

Received: from bgt11.sonnet.co.uk ([209.179.222.137]) by 210.xxx.xxx.50 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3.1) id 738 via TCP with SMTP; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:35:17 +0900
Message-ID: <0000142d22d5$000050ba$0000187b@bigpond.com.au>
To: <esxfnepmsr@male.ru>
From: erqla@sapo.pt
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:27:05 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html;
  charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Priority: 1
X-MSMail-Priority: High
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c)

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3)-----------------------------------------------------------------------



Please read this entire message carefully before replying

If you are not the technical contact for your organisation, please
forward this to the person who is.

Reference: http://www.orbs.org/messagelookup.php3?address=210.xxx.xxx.50

210.xxx.xxx.50 has been detected as an insecure email relay and added
to the ORBS database.

Please check the ORBS website (http://www.orbs.org/) for links 
to other sites that may be able to help you close your relay. Most mail
transport agents can be secured quickly by the operator, usually for no
cost other than the time take to read the appropriate instructions for
your software.

To be removed from the ORBS database, you need to disable the external relay
features of your mail server and then report the IP address 210.xxx.xxx.50
to our web site at  http://www.orbs.org/closed2.php3?address=210.xxx.xxx.50
We will immediately remove your site's entry, then re-test it for
third-party relay capabilities.

ORBS is an automated testing system, if your mailserver has multiple
IP interfaces, it is likely that you will receive multiple copies of
this message. You should only receive one notice per IP number, however
ORBS notices are sent to both the literal IP address and the resolved DNS
name, so 2 notices may be received in some cases.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

listings@orbs.org

The message your system relayed is attached below.
If you believe your server has been secured, please check the
X-Envelope lines to see which vulnerability has been missed
and check them against the list of vulnerabilties at
http://www.orbs.org/envelopes.html

From postmaster-errors@[194.178.232.55]  Sat Sep  2 20:05:35 2000
Received: from 210.xxx.xxx.50 (ns.sample.co.jp [210.xxx.xxx.50])
  by mail2.manawatu.net.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA09164
  for <orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:57:10 +1200
X-Remote-IP: 210.xxx.xxx.50
Received: from relaytest.orbs.vuurwerk.nl [194.178.232.55] by 210.xxx.xxx.50 (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3.1) id 261 via TCP with SMTP; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 17:04:56 +0900
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 17:04:56 +0900
To: orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz
From: null@mail2.manawatu.net.nz
X-Token: uqlsnddkxuomrzts
X-Envelope-Sender: <null>
X-Envelope-Recipient: <orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>
Message-Id: <210.xxx.xxx.50@orbs.org>
Subject: ORBS Relay Test - 210.xxx.xxx.50

This program checks for open relays.

Open relays are automatically added to the ORBS Open Relay
Database (see http://www.orbs.org/ for details).

Check http://www.orbs.org/verify.php3?address=210.xxx.xxx.50 for this hosts current status.

Vulnerability checks are detailed at http://www.orbs.org/envelopes.html

Securing help can be found at http://www.orbs.org/otherresources.html

There are multiple tests applied per IP address.
Partially secured hosts may pass some tests, but fail others.
Hosts are only classified as secure by ORBS if they pass all tests.

Hosts which do not deliver messages are not classified as insecure.

Do not use the above addresses to contact me - use admin@orbs.org.

X-Token: uqlsnddkxuomrzts
X-Envelope-Sender: MAIL FROM:<null>
X-Envelope-Recipient: RCPT TO:<orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz>


4)-----------------------------------------------------------------------




     ************************************************
     **      THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY        **
     **  YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE    **
     ************************************************

The original message was received at Fri Sep 29 15:38:08 2000

Warning: message still undelivered after 1 hour(s)
Will keep trying until message is 72 hour(s) old

Reporting-MTA: DNS, ns.sample.co.jp

Action: delayed
Last-Attempt-Date: Fri Sep 29 16:48:10 2000
Will-Retry-Until: Mon Oct  2 15:38:08 2000


The first portion of the original message text follows:
-------------------------------------------------------

Received: from relaytest.orbs.vuurwerk.nl [194.178.232.55] by ns.sample.co.jp (AppleShare IP Mail Server 6.3.1) id 2587 via TCP with SMTP; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:38:09 +0900
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:38:09 +0900
To: "orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz"
From: sender@orbs.org
X-Token: xkloacsejjacwvse
X-Envelope-Sender: <sender@orbs.org>
X-Envelope-Recipient: <"orbs-relaytest@manawatu.co.nz">
Message-Id: <210.xxx.xxx.50@orbs.org>
Subject: ORBS Relay Test - 210.xxx.xxx.50

This program checks for open relays.

Open relays are automatically added to the ORBS Open Relay
Database (see http://www.orbs.org/ for details).

Check http://www.orbs.org/verify.php3?address=210.xxx.xxx.50 for this hosts current status.

Vulnerability checks are detailed at http://www.orbs.org/envelopes.html

Securing help can be found at http://www.orbs.org/otherresources.html

There are multiple tests applied per IP address.
Partially secured hosts may pass some tests, but fail others.
Hosts are only classified as secure by ORBS if they pass all tests.

Hosts which do not deliver messages are not classified as insecure.

Do not use the above addresses to contact me - use admin@orbs.org.

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